The
Terra Papers HOAX!
For anyone who believes this lie yes it was made up by Robert Morning Sky.
This is one of the men who started the new age bullshit. Robert Morning Sky along with David Icke, Zecharia Sitchin, Erich Von Daniken are the creators of the worlds biggest money grabbing fraud withing ufology. They are all really wealthy men, and they have made millions off lying to people, and brain washing them with lies. This is the sad reality of ufology.
No matter what these men say it's all lies sprinkled with some common knowledge that has a nugget of truth to it so that it helps cause confusion in us. Because if we know this small nugget of info he's telling us in this grand tale then the whole thing must be true right? Wrong that's how a magician does it.. Called misdirection.
These guys are hoaxers, con artists, and most of all magicians playing a trick on the world. Read this email below debunking the Terra Papers hoax.
Here is a video of Robert Morning Sky telling his bullshit in a lecture where he's paid money to tell his lie. That's why these people make up these wild bullshit stories. They do it to make the rounds at these conventions, and they make a shit load of money off it.
DON'T BE FOOLED by anyone who tells you that they don't make money in ufology. That is a bullshit lie. They all make a ton of money. Everyone of these liars are rich off people who believe their lies, and buy their books, and attend their lectures.
Subject: [nafps_again] Warning on Robert Morning Sky
Trish, add this to the website when you can. Dawn, our friends in Europe, or anyone else who cares to, feel free to pass this along.
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FRAUD ALERT: ROBERT "MORNING SKY"
KAREN DEGENHEART AKA "THUNDER STONE DREAM WOMAN"
Since the 1970s, a man calling himself Robert "Morning Sky" has posed as Hopi and Apache and made his living off of the fringes of the UFO movement. Morning Sky claims Hopi beliefs and prophecies support his belief in a vast cosmic conspiracy of lizard-like aliens who control mankind's destiny. He claims a vast government conspiracy is out to get him, and portrays himself as a brave soul carrying an important message persecuted by dark forces who drove him out of academia.
In fact, Morning Sky's ludicrous and goofy beliefs do not have the slightest proof. Morning Sky has a long history of lying and working with numerous other charlatans and spiritual exploiters. Even his very identity is open to question.
The truth:
1) Morning Sky is NOT Hopi.
"Robert Morning Sky has claimed to be half Hopi on numerous occasions. The Hopi have never heard of him and deny his UFO story.
I checked out Morning Sky through personal contacts. The Hopi are a small, closely knit tribe and would know either Robert Morning Sky or his grandfather. Morning Sky has refused to reveal the name of his grandfather." -Krisanna Duran
"Morning Sky" is also NOTHING like ACTUAL Hopi names. Actual Hopis use their traditional indigenous last names. "Morning Sky" is clearly a New Age imitation of PLAINS Indian names.
2) Morning Sky is likely NOT Apache. He has consistently refused to name which of the Apache bands he is supposedly from. He has also consistently refused to name who his alleged Apache grandfather is.
REAL Apaches do not identify as simply Apache but will also name which band or reservation they are or are from.
"Morning Sky" is NOT an Apache name either. Most Apaches have Hispanic names. The most famous example is Geronimo, named after a Catholic saint.
Among themselves, many Apaches will use their own indigenous names such as Geronimo's real name, Goyathlay. Other Apaches have Anglo last names such as Jones.
Morning Sky does such a poor impersonation of an Indian that he could not even get the regalia right when he danced at powwows. Photos showed him dressed in huge bulky fur capes and fur boots, looking more like Liberace than anyone else.
3) Most of what Morning Sky claims are Hopi beliefs and prophecies obviously have NOTHING to do with Native people AT ALL. They are from CHRISTIAN or EUROPEAN lore. The Knights Templar and the Holy Grail stories come from ENGLAND. Conspiracy theories about the Illuminati and the Bilderbergers are obviously ANGLO-AMERICAN and SECULAR in origin.
Morning Sky also relies on discredited frauds like Carlos Castaneda. Someone would really have to know absolutely nothing about American Indians (or Christian mythology) to believe any of this has anything to do with Hopis or Apaches.
4) Morning Sky works with a long list of OTHER notorious frauds and
spiritual exploiters such as:
"Oshinnah Fastwolf"- a Scottish woman who poses as Chiricahua Apache.
Robert Franzone AKA "Ghostwolf" an Italian-American from New Jersey who has at various times posed as Lakota, Iroquois, or Metis,
one of the worst exploiters around with a history of violence against women and several convictions for fraud.
"Hunbatz Men" an Anglo-American who passes off Buddhist beliefs as Mayan.
5) The Hopi Nation says NO ONE who claims to represent or teach about their beliefs off reservation is legitimate:
"Over the years many individuals, both Hopi and non-Hopi, have purposely DISTORTED and EXPLOITED Hopi spirituality and the Hopi way
of life to suit their OWN ends. The reasons for this
misrepresentation vary as much as the people who engage in it. The most common motives, however, are NOTORIETY, PROFIT, or political manipulation. Irrespective of the intent, it all results in an
unwanted INTRUSION by outsiders on the Hopi way of life.
Many, and perhaps most, Hopi people believe that religion is a PRIVATE matter and that there is already too much information available to non-Hopis about Hopi spirituality. A great deal of
knowledge that may have been shared with guests as a courtesy or as privileged information, even in moments of undeserved trust, has been
published. These published accounts, be they accurate or misleading, have been MISUSED to replicate Hopi ceremonies and spirituality for
profit. In many cases, information has been ALTERED in a way that ignores any spiritual context and religious significance.
BEWARE of ANY INDIVIDUAL or organization USING THE HOPI NAME to promote spiritual workshops, seminars or other "religious" activities. It is NOT a Hopi value to try and convert non-Hopi people
to Hopi religious beliefs or ways. And, sharing religious knowledge for profit is UNACCEPTABLE to most Hopi people.
Hopi religion is so complex that it is IMPOSSIBLE for any one Hopi, traditional group or political faction within Hopi, to know it entirely. Hopi culture and religion as a whole is multifaceted, but there are also variations from village to village, and much of the Hopi ceremonial cycle is secret even among the Hopi. Specific clans and societies are responsible for different aspects of the ceremonial cycle, which in its entirety, make a complimentary whole.
BEWARE, then, of any one person professing to be a traditional spokesperson for the Hopi or even a "traditional" Hopi. No one person can possibly speak for all Hopi people. Some who profess to do
so do NOT practice the beliefs of Hopi religion or participate in its priesthoods."
http://www.hopi.nsn.us/Pages/Culture/misrep.html.Emphases were added.
6) Morning Sky also conducts vision quests (which are NOT a Hopi ceremony) and has a very goofy Anglo woman, Karen Degenhart AKA "Thunder Stone Dream Woman" as a follower. Degenhart herself sells "shamanic services."
7) Morning Sky's claims that there are Hopi hieroglyphics on alien autopsy sites are FRAUDULENT:
"Linguistics professor/retired, Boris Chourinov, has stated strongly that the translations that Robert Morning Sky [did] are way off base and have no foundation in the reality of linguistics."
http://www.beyondroswell.com/roswell/autopsy_news.html
8) In a rare unguarded moment, Morning Sky HIMSELF admits to having made up some of his claims, and that he has no authority to claim
what he does:
"I am not a shaman, a medicine man, a guru... I have nothing to offer you in the way of credibility. I am a nobody."
-Robert Morning Sky, introducing himself in an article called, "The Blue Star Hoax" that appeared in LEADING EDGE #95. Among other things, Morning Sky...claimed that the fabled "Blue Star" does not exist in Hopi legends, teachings or mythology. It was a term that he invented in the early 1970's that has since been pirated by
researchers who falsely claimed to have spent time with Hopi Elders learning the secrets of the Blue Star Kachina (a kachina that Morning Sky says doesn't exist), and channelers, psychics and clairvoyants who claim to have received Blue Star revelations from their spiritual sources."
-http://www.nhne.com/newsbriefs/nhnenb42.html
What You Can Do:
1) AVOID Morning Sky and do not pay to hear him speak at the UFO and New Age events he frequents. Complain to the sponsors or organizers if he is included.
2) If you still choose to go to these events, CHALLENGE his long history of lies. UFO believers often complain the rest of the public will not take them seriously. People like Morning Sky are one of the reasons!
3) Report his activities to Native activist groups such as AIM, NAFPS, Red Road Collective. Also report what he does to the Hopi Nation.
4) PASS ON what you have learned here to anyone who believes Morning Sky is legit.
"Among other things, Morning Sky...claimed that the fabled "Blue Star" does not exist in Hopi legends, teachings or mythology. It was a term that he invented in the early 1970's that has since been pirated by researchers who falsely claimed to have spent time with Hopi Elders learning the secrets of the Blue Star Kachina (a kachina that Morning Sky says doesn't exist)"
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> so, he "claimed" that he made it up....but did not "admit"...there is a difference...as far as I know the Hopi legend itself is actually legitimate.?????
Sorry to bust that bubble, No such Blue Star prophecy exists in reality. It is an actual Katsina that appears amongst the 4-500 or so Katsinam at Hopi, but has been endowed with an almost mythical element of prophetic visions by non-Hopis. These prophecies are widespread, and the only person who has admitted to believing them was a guy in Sedona, no surprise there then. I haven't been able to trace the first mention of this Katsina in prophetic circles, but some say it might have started with Frank Waters' "Book of the Hopi" -
which is a problematic book in and of itself.
The whole 2012 stuff stems from Jose Arguilles I think, and was incorporated by certain inventors of Hopi tradition in the early '90's. The Mayan calendar is not generally followed by Hopi
society leaders, as far as I know, they tend to prefer their own! :)
Other stories regarding the blue-star Katsina that are circulating interpret it as a sign of, or as representing a blue-tailed comet, which is due to crash to earth imminently, and therefore all but
the 'pure of heart' will be destroyed instantly.
Hopi prophecy is a complex area of investigation, and if you are interested, I recommend Armin Geertz's "The Invention of Prophecy", as well as much of Richard Clemmer's work for an insight into the social and political background to the 'Traditionalist' rhetoric that spawned the outside interest in this stuff.
For anyone who believes this lie yes it was made up by Robert Morning Sky.
This is one of the men who started the new age bullshit. Robert Morning Sky along with David Icke, Zecharia Sitchin, Erich Von Daniken are the creators of the worlds biggest money grabbing fraud withing ufology. They are all really wealthy men, and they have made millions off lying to people, and brain washing them with lies. This is the sad reality of ufology.
No matter what these men say it's all lies sprinkled with some common knowledge that has a nugget of truth to it so that it helps cause confusion in us. Because if we know this small nugget of info he's telling us in this grand tale then the whole thing must be true right? Wrong that's how a magician does it.. Called misdirection.
These guys are hoaxers, con artists, and most of all magicians playing a trick on the world. Read this email below debunking the Terra Papers hoax.
Here is a video of Robert Morning Sky telling his bullshit in a lecture where he's paid money to tell his lie. That's why these people make up these wild bullshit stories. They do it to make the rounds at these conventions, and they make a shit load of money off it.
DON'T BE FOOLED by anyone who tells you that they don't make money in ufology. That is a bullshit lie. They all make a ton of money. Everyone of these liars are rich off people who believe their lies, and buy their books, and attend their lectures.
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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:21:24 -0000Subject: [nafps_again] Warning on Robert Morning Sky
Trish, add this to the website when you can. Dawn, our friends in Europe, or anyone else who cares to, feel free to pass this along.
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FRAUD ALERT: ROBERT "MORNING SKY"
KAREN DEGENHEART AKA "THUNDER STONE DREAM WOMAN"
Since the 1970s, a man calling himself Robert "Morning Sky" has posed as Hopi and Apache and made his living off of the fringes of the UFO movement. Morning Sky claims Hopi beliefs and prophecies support his belief in a vast cosmic conspiracy of lizard-like aliens who control mankind's destiny. He claims a vast government conspiracy is out to get him, and portrays himself as a brave soul carrying an important message persecuted by dark forces who drove him out of academia.
In fact, Morning Sky's ludicrous and goofy beliefs do not have the slightest proof. Morning Sky has a long history of lying and working with numerous other charlatans and spiritual exploiters. Even his very identity is open to question.
The truth:
1) Morning Sky is NOT Hopi.
"Robert Morning Sky has claimed to be half Hopi on numerous occasions. The Hopi have never heard of him and deny his UFO story.
I checked out Morning Sky through personal contacts. The Hopi are a small, closely knit tribe and would know either Robert Morning Sky or his grandfather. Morning Sky has refused to reveal the name of his grandfather." -Krisanna Duran
"Morning Sky" is also NOTHING like ACTUAL Hopi names. Actual Hopis use their traditional indigenous last names. "Morning Sky" is clearly a New Age imitation of PLAINS Indian names.
2) Morning Sky is likely NOT Apache. He has consistently refused to name which of the Apache bands he is supposedly from. He has also consistently refused to name who his alleged Apache grandfather is.
REAL Apaches do not identify as simply Apache but will also name which band or reservation they are or are from.
"Morning Sky" is NOT an Apache name either. Most Apaches have Hispanic names. The most famous example is Geronimo, named after a Catholic saint.
Among themselves, many Apaches will use their own indigenous names such as Geronimo's real name, Goyathlay. Other Apaches have Anglo last names such as Jones.
Morning Sky does such a poor impersonation of an Indian that he could not even get the regalia right when he danced at powwows. Photos showed him dressed in huge bulky fur capes and fur boots, looking more like Liberace than anyone else.
3) Most of what Morning Sky claims are Hopi beliefs and prophecies obviously have NOTHING to do with Native people AT ALL. They are from CHRISTIAN or EUROPEAN lore. The Knights Templar and the Holy Grail stories come from ENGLAND. Conspiracy theories about the Illuminati and the Bilderbergers are obviously ANGLO-AMERICAN and SECULAR in origin.
Morning Sky also relies on discredited frauds like Carlos Castaneda. Someone would really have to know absolutely nothing about American Indians (or Christian mythology) to believe any of this has anything to do with Hopis or Apaches.
4) Morning Sky works with a long list of OTHER notorious frauds and
spiritual exploiters such as:
"Oshinnah Fastwolf"- a Scottish woman who poses as Chiricahua Apache.
Robert Franzone AKA "Ghostwolf" an Italian-American from New Jersey who has at various times posed as Lakota, Iroquois, or Metis,
one of the worst exploiters around with a history of violence against women and several convictions for fraud.
"Hunbatz Men" an Anglo-American who passes off Buddhist beliefs as Mayan.
5) The Hopi Nation says NO ONE who claims to represent or teach about their beliefs off reservation is legitimate:
"Over the years many individuals, both Hopi and non-Hopi, have purposely DISTORTED and EXPLOITED Hopi spirituality and the Hopi way
of life to suit their OWN ends. The reasons for this
misrepresentation vary as much as the people who engage in it. The most common motives, however, are NOTORIETY, PROFIT, or political manipulation. Irrespective of the intent, it all results in an
unwanted INTRUSION by outsiders on the Hopi way of life.
Many, and perhaps most, Hopi people believe that religion is a PRIVATE matter and that there is already too much information available to non-Hopis about Hopi spirituality. A great deal of
knowledge that may have been shared with guests as a courtesy or as privileged information, even in moments of undeserved trust, has been
published. These published accounts, be they accurate or misleading, have been MISUSED to replicate Hopi ceremonies and spirituality for
profit. In many cases, information has been ALTERED in a way that ignores any spiritual context and religious significance.
BEWARE of ANY INDIVIDUAL or organization USING THE HOPI NAME to promote spiritual workshops, seminars or other "religious" activities. It is NOT a Hopi value to try and convert non-Hopi people
to Hopi religious beliefs or ways. And, sharing religious knowledge for profit is UNACCEPTABLE to most Hopi people.
Hopi religion is so complex that it is IMPOSSIBLE for any one Hopi, traditional group or political faction within Hopi, to know it entirely. Hopi culture and religion as a whole is multifaceted, but there are also variations from village to village, and much of the Hopi ceremonial cycle is secret even among the Hopi. Specific clans and societies are responsible for different aspects of the ceremonial cycle, which in its entirety, make a complimentary whole.
BEWARE, then, of any one person professing to be a traditional spokesperson for the Hopi or even a "traditional" Hopi. No one person can possibly speak for all Hopi people. Some who profess to do
so do NOT practice the beliefs of Hopi religion or participate in its priesthoods."
http://www.hopi.nsn.us/Pages/Culture/misrep.html.Emphases were added.
6) Morning Sky also conducts vision quests (which are NOT a Hopi ceremony) and has a very goofy Anglo woman, Karen Degenhart AKA "Thunder Stone Dream Woman" as a follower. Degenhart herself sells "shamanic services."
7) Morning Sky's claims that there are Hopi hieroglyphics on alien autopsy sites are FRAUDULENT:
"Linguistics professor/retired, Boris Chourinov, has stated strongly that the translations that Robert Morning Sky [did] are way off base and have no foundation in the reality of linguistics."
http://www.beyondroswell.com/roswell/autopsy_news.html
8) In a rare unguarded moment, Morning Sky HIMSELF admits to having made up some of his claims, and that he has no authority to claim
what he does:
"I am not a shaman, a medicine man, a guru... I have nothing to offer you in the way of credibility. I am a nobody."
-Robert Morning Sky, introducing himself in an article called, "The Blue Star Hoax" that appeared in LEADING EDGE #95. Among other things, Morning Sky...claimed that the fabled "Blue Star" does not exist in Hopi legends, teachings or mythology. It was a term that he invented in the early 1970's that has since been pirated by
researchers who falsely claimed to have spent time with Hopi Elders learning the secrets of the Blue Star Kachina (a kachina that Morning Sky says doesn't exist), and channelers, psychics and clairvoyants who claim to have received Blue Star revelations from their spiritual sources."
-http://www.nhne.com/newsbriefs/nhnenb42.html
What You Can Do:
1) AVOID Morning Sky and do not pay to hear him speak at the UFO and New Age events he frequents. Complain to the sponsors or organizers if he is included.
2) If you still choose to go to these events, CHALLENGE his long history of lies. UFO believers often complain the rest of the public will not take them seriously. People like Morning Sky are one of the reasons!
3) Report his activities to Native activist groups such as AIM, NAFPS, Red Road Collective. Also report what he does to the Hopi Nation.
4) PASS ON what you have learned here to anyone who believes Morning Sky is legit.
"Among other things, Morning Sky...claimed that the fabled "Blue Star" does not exist in Hopi legends, teachings or mythology. It was a term that he invented in the early 1970's that has since been pirated by researchers who falsely claimed to have spent time with Hopi Elders learning the secrets of the Blue Star Kachina (a kachina that Morning Sky says doesn't exist)"
>
> so, he "claimed" that he made it up....but did not "admit"...there is a difference...as far as I know the Hopi legend itself is actually legitimate.?????
Sorry to bust that bubble, No such Blue Star prophecy exists in reality. It is an actual Katsina that appears amongst the 4-500 or so Katsinam at Hopi, but has been endowed with an almost mythical element of prophetic visions by non-Hopis. These prophecies are widespread, and the only person who has admitted to believing them was a guy in Sedona, no surprise there then. I haven't been able to trace the first mention of this Katsina in prophetic circles, but some say it might have started with Frank Waters' "Book of the Hopi" -
which is a problematic book in and of itself.
The whole 2012 stuff stems from Jose Arguilles I think, and was incorporated by certain inventors of Hopi tradition in the early '90's. The Mayan calendar is not generally followed by Hopi
society leaders, as far as I know, they tend to prefer their own! :)
Other stories regarding the blue-star Katsina that are circulating interpret it as a sign of, or as representing a blue-tailed comet, which is due to crash to earth imminently, and therefore all but
the 'pure of heart' will be destroyed instantly.
Hopi prophecy is a complex area of investigation, and if you are interested, I recommend Armin Geertz's "The Invention of Prophecy", as well as much of Richard Clemmer's work for an insight into the social and political background to the 'Traditionalist' rhetoric that spawned the outside interest in this stuff.
Isn't their an agenda behind Ufology, to MAKE us believe that the origin of UFOs is extra-terrestrial as opposed to terrestrial? i'm just a nobody, trying to figure stuff out for myself, but this is as far as i've got:
ReplyDeletewww.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1785.htm
Nikola Tesla’s work in science brought about modern day UFOs. He and Viktor Schauberger were the superstars of the new flying disc technology. In WWll, the Nazi's had relied heavily on Tesla's research to create what bomber pilots called "Foo Fighters," or "Kraut Balls."
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117093/Secret-files-reveal-9-000-Nazi-war-criminals-fled-South-America-WWII.html
Secret files reveal 9,000 Nazi war criminals fled to South America after WW11
The files show that the contact point for many was German Bishop Alois Hudal, priest-confessor to the German Catholic community in Rome.
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http://history1900s.about.com/od/auschwitz/a/mengeletwins.htm
One of those fleeing Nazi war criminals was Josef Mengele.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/4307262/Nazi-angel-of-death-Josef-Mengele-created-twin-town-in-Brazil.html
Josef Mengele fled to South America in the face of the red army advance in January 1945. He made repeated visits to a small Brazilian town in the 60s. That town is now full of twins! So the genetic experiments continued! Have the Nazi geneticists created beings that look to us like aliens (what our concept of aliens should look like) in their underground laboratories? What about all the incidents of ‘missing people’ from the forests in America – are they easy pickings for Nazi geneticists?
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UFOs made on Earth (German Now USA)
www.toutube.com/watch?v=yU8rhZfgqK0
Now some scientists and the Vatican are talking about Aliens. Never a good sign, if the Vatican want you to believe in something. Next we’ll be seeing UFOs everywhere in the sky. Why?
a. They're thinking about another "terror attack" (of course government sponsored) using these ‘Manmade UFOs’ against all of humanity that are gullible enough to believe they are ‘real UFOs from outer space’ and then they'll blame it on aliens.
b. Or part of the request for a New World Order. The alien UFOs attack (except they’re not alien UFOs, they’re man made UFOs) so the forces move in with the ‘man made’ UFOs (or existing craft) to ‘take out’ the alien invasion. For which humanity is very grateful and hands over leadership to the NWO. No doubt at a ‘cost to the individual’s pocket.’
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www.lyne4lyne.tripod.com
To pick up this site - type in lyne4lyne.tripod.com to google.William R Lyne, a top secret clearance in air force intelligence, reached long ago the same conclusion as me (a nobody) and wrote a book called ‘Occult Ether Physics’- the basis for a space propulsion system invented in the late 19th century by Nikola Tesla. He recognised the ‘Roswell incidence’ as a bungled hoax when it was created in 1947 by military intelligence personnel at Holloman AFB, New Mexico. William Lyne calls them ‘Pentagon Space Aliens’ and says ‘don’t be deceived by the propaganda surrounding UFOs as Flying Saucers are manmade electrical machines (pentagon created delusions)’.
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www.disclosureproject.org/
Aim – to make UFOs appear ‘extra-terrestrial’ and to give the impression that they are disclosing to the public the truth (a truth that their Government seeks to hide). All part of the illusion?
Do you think this is the reality or is my thinking off course?
Karoline Bobrowski
ignoring questions of people is not nice. there 4 i think u are the liar maybe. i dont trust any scholar. to much lies has been told
ReplyDeleteTim Korenblik. Today is july 28,2019. I just came across this put down on the truth!!! Yes, Robert Morning Sky speaks truth. He does not speak with a forked tongue as this debunking group says!! LOL! Horsefeathers!! LOL! 2019, and they are full of baloney!!! :-) You are correct in knowing that they speak LIES!!! Keep the message going. Love, Light, and much happiness to you and all, even these liars. Take care.
DeleteWhat is your explanation then. Do you think we are the only one in this vast universe? The earth is a spec of dust life is everywhere in the universe. Billions of years ahead of us en below us. If you think there is no life out there you are the idiot! Look at the earth som much life the universe isn't that different if yu are prepared to look beyond the lies of our goverments. You cry a lot about people trying to wake up the masses but you don't come with theories yourself that are correct! What is de soul reason about this page really?
ReplyDeleteI do not trust this article at all. And please do not delete my comment. If it will be deleted it will confirm even more that the information about Robert Morning Sky here is fraud.
ReplyDeleteWell you failed to mention the Terra Papers and that is the only source of info I had ever read about him. He might be some liar trying to get rich or just get by, but that book struck a nerve or awakened something inside that says there is a lot of truth to this. Who else taliked about evil Reptiles from space before him?
ReplyDeleteWell you failed to mention the Terra Papers and that is the only source of info I had ever read about him. He might be some liar trying to get rich or just get by, but that book struck a nerve or awakened something inside that says there is a lot of truth to this. Who else taliked about evil Reptiles from space before him?
ReplyDeleteWell you failed to mention the Terra Papers and that is the only source of info I had ever read about him. He might be some liar trying to get rich or just get by, but that book struck a nerve or awakened something inside that says there is a lot of truth to this. Who else taliked about evil Reptiles from space before him?
ReplyDeleteI read the Terra Papers and coincides with all of the other research I have done over the years. Is also funny that Star Wars came from or is extremely similar to this book. Yeah I can't sit here and say the guy is a fraud. Put the pieces together and you will see that it is not bullshit.
ReplyDeleteIt is not important is it real or not , what is important is the message it sends and that message is clear. It is time for Humans to wake up and realise there are no gods , no divine creatures and that Humans are not slaves. Humans need to learn the way of turth and peace so they can provide and protect better future for themselves , this planet and every benevolent universal creation. In the end we are all part of this Universe , we are all same and equal , the star children.
ReplyDeleteSeems like someone is trying pretty hard to discredit Robert. Idk about anyone else who read the Terra papers, but when i finished reading them, everything I've ever wondered about my place and history as a human being in this universe sure makes sense. Neither the Bible or scientists have been able to convince me, but for whatever reason, Roberts story just makes sense. It really does. Thank you Robett for sharing. My eyes are wide open.
ReplyDeleteDARK AGE VISION: UFOS AND ALIENS DON'T EXIST, WE ARE THE ONLY ONE IN THIS VAST UNIVERSE!
ReplyDeleteA god material for thoruough thinking.
ReplyDeleteI was looking into the material and am also reading some other things concerning the same information. I think and feel there is a lot of truth in those messages. People who are striving to debunk those people are just trying to maintain the masculine false religion system we are experiencing here on earth and everything that comes with it!
ReplyDeleteDoes the debunker has our best interest at heart?
ReplyDeleteWhat is funny is that the energy it employs to take our attention away from what seems to be a very consistent piece of work only reinforce the subject (Don't think of a pink elephant!)
Morning Sky refers to Michael Cremo among others... Do you dismiss his work too?
I think Morning Sky is telling a story closer to the true events that have taken place in our distorted history, closer than anything that was told to us so far.
Does the debunker has our best interest at heart?
ReplyDeleteWhat is funny is that the energy it employs to take our attention away from what seems to be a very consistent piece of work only reinforce the subject (Don't think of a pink elephant!)
Morning Sky refers to Michael Cremo among others... Do you dismiss his work too?
I think Morning Sky is telling a story closer to the true events that have taken place in our distorted history, closer than anything that was told to us so far.
Follow also Nassim Haramein, David Wilcock, Jean-Pierre Petit...
so happy to see you guys didn't fall for this '' Debunker '' BS. It's so biased. so proud of you guys. we should ask ''his'' explanation about the pyramids of giza .. baalbek and jerusalem trilethons .. petra .. machu pichu .. and so forth .. see what he got to say .. lol
ReplyDeleteI suggest you take your debunk garbbage down. I know the Star Beings are real Jerk I one. Princess Leia. Andromedia is my home planet. We here and cleaning house. Gaia sent a SOS over Million years ago. This planet is infested with nasty Repressive ETs.
ReplyDeleteI suggest you take your debunk garbbage down. I know the Star Beings are real Jerk I one. Princess Leia. Andromedia is my home planet. We here and cleaning house. Gaia sent a SOS over Million years ago. This planet is infested with nasty Repressive ETs.
ReplyDeletethis debunker is himself either hopelessly decieved or bought to blind everybody,he gives us no better explanation as to what he thinks is ryt.my message to him is wake up good fellow,watch the stars at night truth is not so far away.
ReplyDeleteSo who is the one making the accusations, what's his/her name???
ReplyDeleteThe Terra Papers only help validate other sources as well as ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics of dogheaded men that stand upright and not as a dog on all fours. Robert Morningsky does not self admit or say he lied, he says he was X-communicated by his elders from the Native American secret societies he belonged to. That would explain why none of the tribes claim him. Also he said he was not a fullblood on the roles of the Hopi tribes. I seen him when he gave one of his few seminars and there was NO cost. He did not tour the world charging money or "getting rich" as this paper describes. He told this information at his own expense and gave very few seminar one of which in my area for free NO COST at which I attended and heard him and spoke with him after the conference. He only gave lectures/ seminars for about two years and completely stopped due to threats to his life. The Terra Papers coincide with some stories on Sumerian Tablets that are 10,000 years old and in the Vedas also contains so much more information about these gods. If this was legit I would expect it to have a ton of opposition and the more "debunking" of this I see the more it validates the information IMO. Also the dogman creatures people are seeing in forest more than even bigfoot sightings would be a plausible explanation for this formidable creature maybe being a descendant of these dog/man gods. There is an obvious cover-up of anything related to exposing the truth about dogmen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUzFSPZBnX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_xniPauIqU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg0xurecRuI
ReplyDeleteThe description of how the Adapus and Adamus human groups were formed ( as described in the Terra Papers) very much explains the ‘rift’ we see among us so often...those who would read all of the data and ponder how it relates to the whole before making decisions...versus those who will strictly obey a self-appointed ‘authority’ demanding they ‘ignore’ a source of information based solely on flimsy character smears. The email.. spent 99% of the time smearing this guy...and spent less on 1% of the actual content. What did the Terra Papers say? HOW are they related to Christian, Templar, etc documents? Where are these documents? Ive never heard of the Bible mentioning Adapus and Adamus. In fact...the story very much sounds like the Garden Of Eden story before it was watered down and twisted (by human men) to imply women as some kind of gate for evil...this Eve and the apple...etc. The description of the beginning of humans as described in the Terra Papers makes some sense...IF you READ it. But just smearing Morning Sky without going into the data is fruitless. The truths will come out...eventually...inevitably. The question is what one does with the info??? Use it to bring is together or use it to create another witchhunt?
ReplyDeleteI have been looking who was the person who post this blog, and I can't find any person, the information of this blog looks faker, you put a name to know who you were, and not just trying to discredit the information of the terra papers! Probably you are some kind of sceptic and working for some thirty party which job is to try to conceal the truth!
ReplyDeleteLOL Not everyone is bought, and paid for by anyone in some conspiracy. Morning Sky was full of junk, and all the men in the banner are full of crap.
DeleteWell that escalated in the opposite direction rather swift and furiously, o' great debunking one. Did you grow tired of deleting the massive tide of comments yet? I think I think so.
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